Agents who skilfully monitored the channels to Afghanistan or Bosnia

Through his positions and his sometimes criticized methods, the founder of WikiLeaks has sometimes been the target of conspiracy theories… But also the source.

It’s a sprawling affair that never ends: British justice formally authorized the extradition of Julian Assange, Wednesday, April 20. A London court has officially issued an extradition order against the 50-year-old Australian, who is being prosecuted by the United States for the dissemination, from 2010, of more than 700,000 classified documents on the activities American military and diplomatic services, particularly in Iraq and Afghanistan. He faces 175 years in prison, which his supporters denounce as a serious attack on the freedom of the press.

Persecuted genius for some, paranoid manipulator for others, the controversial figure of Julian Assange is at the center of multiple conspiracy theories. Without calling into question the major role played by WikiLeaks in the revelation of war crimes since 2006, this new episode of “Complorama” returns to the complex personality of the founder of WikiLeaks, his links with the conspirosphere. But also on the different conspiracy theories that emerged in the United States after the leak of documents, and the paradoxical relationship maintained between Julian Assange and Russia.

WikiLeaks and conspiracy”, this is the 28th episode of Complorama, with Rudy Reichstadt, director of Conspiracy Watch, and Tristan Mendès France, lecturer and member of the observatory of conspiracy, specialist in digital cultures. A podcast to be found on the franceinfo site, the Radio France application and several other platforms such as Apple podcasts, Podcast Addict, Spotify, or Deezer.

November 13 trial: at the helm, former judge Marc Trévidic traces the mistakes of the fight against terrorism
For three hours, Marc Trévidic retraced the recent history of the fight against terrorism in France and how the situation entered “another dimension” with the attacks in Toulouse in 2012.

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It is a frank testimony which was able to attend, Tuesday, May 4, the people present at the trial of the attacks of November 13 before the special assize court of Paris: that of the former anti-terrorist judge Marc Trévidic. Very free, for three and a half hours, at the helm, the one who was one of the greatest specialists in the subject, at the helm from 2003 to 2015, spoke without taboo of the flaws in French services and his own regrets.

His experience allows him first of all to recall the recent history of anti-terrorism in France. He retraces this time when these services, intelligence and judicial, were of “very high level” and had made it possible to thwart attacks abroad, in the United States in particular. Agents who skilfully monitored the channels to Afghanistan or Bosnia. It was then the end of the 1990s and the 2000s. “Until then, with Al-Qaeda, we had trained Salafists whom we followed successfully,” he slips.

“We had a few individuals to manage, we did it successfully. No more attacks had taken place since 1996. We felt invulnerable”

Marc Trevidic
The attacks in Toulouse, “another dimension”
And then came the seesaw, in 2012, with the attacks perpetrated by Mohammed Merah in Toulouse. “A real blow to morale for the police and judges”, by his own admission, even if many commentators then spoke of a “lone wolf” terrorist and “denied the growing vulnerability of France”, he slices .

His voice is calm, despite a few nervous laughs when he recalls the years 2013 to 2015. “The police in panic, in his office, drowned in files and not enough” to contain the wave of French departures to Syria and the Islamic State organization, details the magistrate, now president of the Versailles Court of Appeal.

“We knew it was going to happen”
He then heard in several phone taps of radicalized people glorifying Merah, rejoicing at the death of the children of Toulouse: “I was scared. There, we understood that we had changed dimension”, he confides. And to say, with a tight throat, “It was then an exodus, jihadist apprentices left with a hatred of France…. The signals were red. We knew it was going to happen.”

Marc Trevidic did not see, at the time in his office, any of the men today in the box of the attacks of November 13, 2015. With the exception of one of the Bataclan suicide bombers, Samy Amimour, bus driver for the RATP left to join the ranks of the Islamic State in 2013, arrested at the time for his desire to leave for Syria. A “file among others, remembers Marc Trévidic, which we thought we could manage with judicial control”. “I know it’s sensitive for the civil parties. I’m not going to beat around the bush. We can only regret not having put him in prison”, he concludes.